What do social workers think about the current economic crisis and the 2008 election?

Election ‘08: What do social workers think about the current economic crisis?

Excesses on Wall Street are impacting Main Street. The country is in an economic crisis and we need leaders who have a viable plan for the economy. How will America jumpstart the economy, provide middle class Americans tax relief; supporting fair trade; and create additional new jobs?

Social workers, what are your thoughts?

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55 Responses to “Election ‘08: What do social workers think about the current economic crisis?”

James Mathis Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I don’t think you have a clear picture of what is really going on in the U.S. There a point in time when all people have to stand up and take responsibility for their actions. I think that the Congress should see that the leaders of the failed companies should face the court rather than getting this large bail out from the Gov. As in all elections before it is thought that the dems will give the poor and downtrodden of this country a better life. Most of these people are ablebodied and need jobs rather than being given more handouts. Those that are truly disabled do need to be helped and should be given all the assistance they need. I have spent years trying to put the people back on the working rolls because that is where they need to be.
joshua Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Obama’s tax plan is not economically justified. Instead of creating job opportunities, he will be increase the unemployment rate by raising taxes. You may feel that he is going after the rich, which he is but raising taxes on them and businesses will effect the ecomony in a bad way. Raising taxes will cause a great depression, businesses won’t be able to stay open, loss of jobs, and the middle class people will strive on what? His plan is not justified, we cannot raise taxes in a time like this. If you vote for Obama, your electing inexperience, mis-leading, and the wrong change.
Debbie Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
As a social work student the future does not look too bright in accquiring a job. Even though I am sure with this economic situation our government is in there will be more clients. I wish I had even the slightest idea how to bring our coun try to a stable and economically profitable place. Perhaps our choice of government officials and as citizens who pay those officials stand up and say NO to the insanity.
Jessia LMSW Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I am a social worker who supports John McCain — just wanted to get that out there.

I personally believe we need to cut spending and start educating our country on what it means to live on “credit” and what it means to live within your means. I think we need to support small businesses and encourage job growth in that sector. I think we need to invest in nuclear, clean coal and other alternative forms of alternative energy. If we invest in these areas we will create tons of new jobs. I do like John McCains addition to the child tax credit. That would impact families for the positive.

First and formost, I feel that if we are going to instill new programs we need to know how we are going to fund them and what we will need to cut. We as a nation need to get back toward fiscal responsibility. Our national savings rate is so below par its unreal and we encourage people to live on debt. Nobody saves for a substantial down payment on a house anymore and if we want it, we just by it, not thinking of how we will pay for it.

Changing how all levels of our society views the value of a dollar will go a long way to helping our economy.
Bill C Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Euphemisms everywhere. Who exactly are “the middle class”? This presumes that there is a “bottom class” and an “upper class”. Who are they? American “sociology” presumes that we are all “middle class.”
What about the inhabitants of the urban ghettos? The Appalachian population, Most Native Americans? Well, these are the “under-privileged”.
What and who determines “privilege”? The ready answer is “income”.
Whatever happened to ‘… and justice and equality for all”? That is the American Dream. Equality presumes an “even playing field” that only exists in the minds of idealists and politicians. I am afraid that Social Work Theory accepts all these platitudes - but “street workers” know better.

A street (social) worker.
Karen Says:
October 8th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
I am a social worker and I do not agree with Obama’s policies. I also think the job of the presidency belongs in the hands of the experienced. It is just too much of an important job to put it into the hand of someone who is a freshman senator with little experience. What exactly has Obama done before becoming a senator?
Christopher Says:
October 9th, 2008 at 9:52 am
How funny is it that you sound like him… “Obama has a clear plan for the economy…” what is it??? He has yet to say anything clear throughout his entire campaign. If someone is truly passionate about what they believe, it wouldn’t matter what office they’re running for, who was watching them, or what the topic, they would be articulate, direct, and unashamed in their defenses. In this last debate, Senator Obama was none of the above. A real dissapointment. So, a “clear plan,” that might be over compensating the real plan.”
Mary Says:
October 9th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
I vote because it is my constitutional right to do so, and the forefathers and foremothers of this Country and my race fought and were killed for such a privilege. I am an Obama supporter, but my trust is in God Almighty. This is where the hope of our Nation’s future lies. Instead of debating “who is the better candidate for the Presidency of the United States, you better aspire to a higher Power because man cannot guarantee anything! Don’t believe me? Just look at the condition our Country’s economic status. Who did it? Man. Don’t believe me? Just look at the health care crisis. Who did it? Man. Don’t believe me? Just visit the schools, especially the ones in the urban areas that received a generous amount of budget cuts at the expense of NCLB Act. Who did it? Man! When this is all over and there is a President in office, I will still be able to close my eyes at night and sleep because the President of the United States is still just A MAN, who can guarantee nothing!
Diane Colonnello Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 10:32 am
I have several points for discussion. One I am for the parity law and yet I thought we have had this on the books since Clinton. I understand that unless as a nation we increase out income this parity law will increase cost and benefits. How will we do this? How will the nation address the greed in corporate America and the insurance industry. Has anyone lived in or analyzed what universal health care has done in other nations like Canada etc? I understand that there are long waits for elective surgeries. Do we understand that with a fixed income as a nation we will have to cut other benefits, and just saying cut the funding to the military is not sufficient. We need to think like any family does, there is a fixed income and a budget and something will have to be trimmed or our income needs to increase. Neither party is addressing these issues.
Joanne Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 11:30 am
I have belonged to NASW since graduating school as an MSW. ( I am now rethinking this decision) I am angered that the NASW would take political sides with their endorsement. I am sick about liberals and democrats giving away our resources (SSI, Welfare, Housing, etc) to people who just arrive at our shores and do not choose to work for a living. I work in Brooklyn where the average person is on SSI for depression, and other illnesses that would be cured by working, single mothers, drug addicts and parolies who get housing for free while I work to try and feed myself and pay rent. I figured out that I can make more money staying home on disability than going to work. Where is the incentive to work? I can tell you that when we stop giving away America’s resources to the lazy maybe we wouldn’t be in such a friggin mess. And what is the problem with democrats thinking that something is wrong with being rich. What? Democrats are just as rich. I believe that if you are rich you should get a tax break, because at least they are working and putting their money back into the US. The majority of people that come to see me are from neighboring countries and when they recieve their SSI they go back to their countries with that money. You know why, they figured out that they can make more money by not working. NASW, STOP backing people who want to give away what the middle class has worked so hard for.
Anna Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Obama has a plan? Where is the money coming from for his national health insurance, increased education spending etc.? When asked in the debates what he would have to cut from his budget he sidestepped the issue. Look at how much the stock market has dropped and the global credit freeze. Increasing taxes will further impede people’s ability to invest in our economy. This country is in big trouble due to our excesses and wall street is the only one to blame. On Main street people bought homes they could not afford and did not get the legal help they should have to understand their mortgages. When I bought a house I had to have private mortgage insurance. NASW would like to have social work student loans forgiven. Did these college educated students not know that they were entering a low paying field because it certainly isn’t news? When my husband and I had very little money we spent very little money. We did not charge vacations or luxury items on our credit card and then go into debt. We struggled to pay back both our student loans and are putting three children through school. I recognize that in order to prevent a further disaster we must have this bail out package but I resent having to pay for it. Many countries that have national health insurance also have a form of private insurance, again creating a system of haves and have nots. I do not have an answer to this most difficult question but I do know that this is not the time to be instituting a massively expensive program. Besides the government hasn’t done too well with Medicare and social security. Obama needs to use the life experience he claims to have and realize we cannot pay for everything even if it is for a good cause and then perhaps he will have the “right” plan.
Emily Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
I am firmly against NASWendorsing a candidate over another. I believe it lumps all social workers as democrats and that just isn’t the case. I agree with EVERYTHING Joanne said. We need to stand up for the money that WE work so hard for. I’m all about helping those who need help, but not those that expect it. I know that half of my clients just received “raises” as they call it on their food stamps. I understand it is to go along with the rising costs of inflation, but where is my “raise”? Where is my help, when I am helping so many others?
Marti Anderson Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
I agree that the president is just one person (so far only men). For that reason a voter has to consider the candidate’s view on the world, values, and ethics. A president must be capable of surrounding himself with creative, wise, and effective people or nothing will change. THAT is why I support Obama.

Getting a person elected is only the beginning. We citizens must be the wind beneath the wings of all elected officials to assure that we move forward. Part of the reason Democrats in Congress have had a hard time effecting change is that they don’t have a veto proof majority and the executive branch and president can block any movement forward.

It is clear to me that Obama has a better understanding of the people we serve and the working people of America. It is clear to me that he has a systemic view of the world and understands we can’t bully or greed ourselves into leadership of the free world. It is clear to me that Obama subscribes to our core values of service and social justice. He may be young, but his wisdom comes from his family background, his work on the street, and his study of the law. My guess is we social workers accomplished a great deal in our 40s through collaboration. Obama understands collaboration, organizing, and doing more together than we can do alone.

Regarding the financial crisis. Part of the problem is a three week war that turned into six years without even identifying the location of the enemy that attacked us on 9/11. This administration is the first ever to cut taxes while waging war. And the tax cuts did not affect most of the families of the troops.

A primary cause of the financial meltdown includes tax breaks for very rich people. As former president Clinton said, “I had no money until I left the White House and now I am getting a tax break I don’t need.” Did you know that social security is not withheld by the government after a person earns $96,000 in a year?

Taxes are not what the government steals from us — They are what we pay together to do what we can’t accomplish individually including military, human service, education, and environmental protection. Locally taxes keep garbage from accumulating on streets, assure passable roads, and protect and restore us after crime. If you think you would rather by those services on the free market, you have not paid attention to the market greed and privatizing government costs over the past 8 years. Remember, we came into this century with surpluses and are 8 years later faced with national debt so big that nobody can really wrap their minds around it.

My heart is breaking because the men behind the crash are not being held accountable and the working population of taxpayers will bear the cost of the bailout. I am frightened about deregulation of business that has results in the free flow of greed. McCain has told us that he will deregulate insurance companies and tax medical benefits some of us get through employment as additional income.

No, I shudder at the prospect of a McCain Palin administration. It is clear that he does not know how to surround himself with quality wise people. Sarah Palin has limited understanding of our place in the world and the rest of America outside Alaska. His campaign staff is dominated with lobbyists for oil, big business, and others with profit (greed) as a core value. He is a war hero who still sees war as a way to gain power in the world. He thinks most people earn at least $250,000 and doesn’t know how many houses he and his $100 million heiress spouse own.

Yes I want Barack Obama with his hope, fresh eyes, and ability to appoint wisely in the White House. I want Joe Biden who has had life and legislative experience by his side. The change won’t happen fast, we are in a financial, military, human service, and infrastructure mess. But we are American social workers and the change must start with us.
Jacob Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I am incredibly shocked how many John McCain supporters there are here. How can you call yourself a social worker when you support a platform thats main philosophy is that everyone has a fair shot in this world and that people need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps? A candidate who has voted against raising the minimum wage 19 times. A candidate who is against passing legislation to create equal pay for men and women. I could go on for a long time talking this point but for all of those so called social workers that support republicans I have one thing to say. You aught to be ashamed of yourselves!
Kari Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Under McCain’s plan I will have to pay taxes on my healthcare plan. I say NO THANKS. Most social workers are already strapped for cash in these trying economic times. The $5000/2500 tax credit he’s proposing will not go into my pocket…it will go directly to my insurance co. I’d rather have it in pocket so that I can decide what to do with it. We need leaders who don’t give handouts to the Healthcare industry and call it a leg up for the little people. Sounds like the same ole, same ole when McCain claims to be for change. Change, huh? I wonder who he stole the mantra of change from? Oh, that’s right…Obama.
Matthew P. Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
The answer is Democratic Socialism. The time is now.

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html
Colleen Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I never post on blogs, but I have to say that I am also shocked and truly dismayed about the 1st several responses posted here. I was going to list all the reasons why I am proud and happy that NASW is supporting Obama, starting with the code of ethics, which we all swear to uphold. But then I read Marti’s, Jacob’s and Kari’s responses and I think they’ve said it all. I will just add that I understand feeling angry and upset about the wages that we as social workers receive. If you think, however, that voting for McCain who has called for a spending freeze, will improve your circumstances, I am sorry to say that it will not. Imagine what would happen if we carelessly cut all funding to the many wonderful programs that do exist. If there are programs that are not working, then yes cut those and use the extra funds where they can be put to better use…but wait, I think Obama already said that.
Kim H. Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
I too am firmly AGAINST NASW endorsing a candidate.

As a social worker in private practice and having worked for several agencies in past years I feel that electing Obama as our President would be one of the worst decisions we could make. We teach clients to speak clearly and truthfully and Obama can only do “smooth talking.” His plan is unclear and deceptive as are his responses to reasonable questions.

We are taught to think, to establish core values for our lives and Barak Obama represents everything I find reprehensible and frightening for our country.

Please think about your vote and decide with wisdom about our future.
D. Stone Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Matthew P.–EXCELLENT link! Thanks for sharing that…I’ve never heard of the Democratic Socialists of America…their policies are much more in line with social workers’ values and ethical principles than either the Republican or Democratic parties. Thanks again for showing me a door to a political party that offers true hope for Americans…
Beth Koon Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Matthew P. and D. Stone clearly do not want a free society. I for one, want a free society where people take responsibility for their own actions as well as help others in need. Social Workers are the worst at promoting their own profession, while continually whining about not getting bigger taxpayer-funded salaries.

Every time we increase the minimum wage, jobs will be lost. Every time we increase taxes on society’s sucessful people, we lose jobs because those “rich” people decrease their luxury spending: restaurants, movies, vacations, salons–all places where the working poor need those jobs but won’t keep them due to lack of business. Every time we increase corporate taxes, those companies raise their prices and may move out of the country.
Every time we increase capital gains taxes, it punishes the people who use capital gains to live after retirement, as well as prolong MY retirement another 5-10 years.

Aren’t we glad we live in a country where we can safely share our different opinions? Socialist, Communist and dictator-run governments don’t allow their citizens to dialog this way.
Jessia LMSW Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
To the man who posted this statement referring to social workers that dont support Obama : ie — “You aught to be ashamed of yourselves!”

I am saddened that a fellow social worker thinks that one political party has it all right and that social workers should all be alike and be part of the democratic party. Thats a shame. I hope you dont try and shame your clients that hold different view and values than you do.

Instead of NASW taking such a partisan stand in regards to this election, I wish that social workers would do what we are trained to do. How about we educate the population on the various parties and the voting process. And not make it so partisan in nature. Advocate for the process of free and fair elections and advocate for being an informed voter.

I HATE that NASW has taken such a political stand in this election. To me, it alienates a whole section of very qualified and caring social workers (dont believe me .. see Jacob’s comments above …. would you feel welcomed here if you were a repub social worker? — probably not.

I think Jacob’s statement itself is very disheartening for the profession. I really think he should be ashamed of himself and re-evaluate his role in the social work profession
Matthew P. Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Beth Koon-

I challenge you to read the principles of a Democratic Socialist’s campaign and see if it does not align with your professional value system that you ascribe to.

Your freedoms would definitely be upheld. It is the core of democratic socialism.
http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html
Karen Zgoda Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
I hope this discussion can take a turn back to the issue at hand - the economy itself and impact on social work. I’m a student working on my PhD and worry about my student loans, worry about government positions drying up once I graduate, worry about the impact on my family and loved ones, and especially worry about how this is going to trickle down and affect our clients. Many of them were not particularly succeeding in this economy as it was; once more jobs dry up and funding for services is decreased, then what? I really shudder, at this point, when thinking about what the future holds. With all this financial talk it’s enough most days not to panic or slide into catastrophic thinking. Is this the beginning of the next depression? Is this the next “Grapes of Wrath” era upon us?
H. Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Yikes! I feel rather ashamed that the public can read this and see how unsupportive we are with each other. I think everyone has a right to their own opinion and will vote or not vote accordingly. What’s with the bashing? Aren’t social workers above this? I’ve only been in case management for a short while, but no wonder some people have negative opinions of us. If we’re so rude to those in our same profession which has enough of it’s own stressful issues, what is everyone else going to think? I love being a social worker and I’m proud to call myself one. I take pride in the services I provide and plan to do so the rest of my life. I respect our professional and try to keep it in realistic but postive light for those that ask me why I’m in such a job.
Mike Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Obama’s “plan” makes absolutely no economic sense. Le’s see, “I’ll tax most successful small businesses so they will not be able to hire new workers, raise the tax that every 401 plan contributer has to pay (long-term capital gains), and give more to all who don’t work or sneak into the country illegally and pay for health care for all.” And , by the way, I’ll censure all who profited from the sub-prime mess except my campaigne (over $160,000.00)
my campaign’s financial advisor and my democratic friends in congress!
And just who makes up the board of PACE who then presumes to know anything about our membership and their preferences. Gosh, read this lists of posts!
Spinster Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
I find it very interesting that the very people who we are supposed to help are being blasted and blamed in this blog.

It’s a travesty that crooks and thieves are being assisted in this “bail-out”, yet working-class folks, who only wanted a small piece of the “American dream” (nightmare seems to be more accurate in this case) are being blamed and not being given any assistance. Instead, my fellow “social workers” are saying, in essence, that “these people” need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. Please.

I also find it interesting that many of the posts here have not answered the question, but instead have used this blog to voice their opinions, many of which are paternalistic and patronizing and which shows the true nature of many of those who call themselves social workers.

My colleagues were right when they said that I’m part of a dying breed.

P.S. specifically to Joanne - with views like yours, you have no business working in Brooklyn. Not even sure why you did that to yourself. *shakes head in amusement and disbelief*
Julie Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
As members of NASW we subscribe to the Code of Ethics. Many of the statements here are not in line with those ethics therefore I am not sure that all the people commenting here are social workers. So, let’s not feed the trolls.

I suggest we all get back to the question at hand which did not ask who we support as candidates but rather what ideas do we as social workers have to assist in this crisis? I believe many schools of social work that focus on policy should be consulted. I also think schools that focus on economics with a philosophy in line with that of social workers should be consulted in order to find leadership and fresh ideas. Finally we can look to our own history for ideas. What aspects of the New Deal can we adopt and use to fit with our current times?
Merrell Cotton III Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Hello everyone, I am glad I have been able to read what other social workers think about these topics. While I am not a social worker yet. I am in the processing of getting my MSSW. Honestly I don’t care that much about myself or what is in my best of interest. Because I know and believe in a higher power who will provide for me in such a way that I will be able to provide for others. Who I do care about though are those people who do not know. The ones who spend their life running in circles. The ones who need a little help going in the right direction. The ones who just need people to love on them. So many times I have to stop myself and think about for whom and why I am living. For me the simple answer is to care about people. So regardless of whoever becomes president or whatever policies come into play; I feel confident saying that with my training as a social worker I will be able to still help those who need and want it.
Wendy Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
The economy and politics are so intertwined right now, it’s almost impossible to talk about one without talking about the other.

I for one am so glad that NASW, NOW, and other progressive organizations have taken a political stand and thrown their support behind Barack Obama. Politics and policies matter in our line of work, and I think it is an important and empowering move for the profession. The point is that the NASW is not supposed to represent each and every one of us, it’s supposed to represent the profession, our core values and mission. Obviously, the party that jeers at the notion of community organizing being important, is not in line with social work values.

As for the economy, I am worried for myself, and for my clients. I have immigrant clients who work as day laborers, who cannot make even the less than minimum wage rate they were making before. I worry about clients being exploited, having benefits and services reduced, and given the brunt of the blame, because we suddenly need scapegoats to explain away the mess we are in. I think the solution ultimately, is to restore faith and hope into the American government. We need a government we can trust to work in our best interest, especially in times of crisis. Imagine if we had an actual leader in place as President right now, what that would do to stem the economic crisis.
Melissa Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
I disagree totally with the NASW backing one political candidate over another, especially when that candidate is a socialist. The thing that scares me the most about Obama being elected is not necessarily Obama - it’s Nancy Pelosi. That is one scary lady!

I also take offense to Obama’s claim to be a social worker and the NASW getting all bent out of shape over Palin’s commnet. I have been to conferences where social workers get upset when CPS workers (who have a degree in something other than SW) call themselves social workers. What is the difference? Obama may be a community organizer, but he is no social worker.

It’s embarassing that people assume because we are social workers that we are also democrats. After reading this blog, it is apparent that there are many who are able to think for themselves. No matter what your party affiliation is, the most important thing you can do is VOTE!!
Heather G. Miller, LCSW Says:
October 10th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
For some reason, I find myself linked over to the blog tonight. This is my first posting on a blog.

First, about PACE - I am currently the Chair of the Pennsylania PACE. Folks are forgetting that the National office of NASW endorses national candidates. There are other people running in this election for state and local offices. It is very important for NASW to be involved politically - we need to elect candidates that are going to stand for our issues & our profession. There are a lot of factors that go into making an endorsement - you can probably read about the process in the govt. section of each chapter’s website and in the advocacy tab here.

On the financial crisis: there are a multitude of factors that contributed to the mess were are in. I do not believe in the bailout - I believe I read that AIG immediately used the money for some kind of retreat and requested more than they received. I’m not sure if raising taxes will help, but I do think several measures are needed. First, I would suggest putting more finances into independent agencies that help assess whether an individual can afford mortgages and for education. Second, I would suggest fixing the credit companies - the measures enacted a couple of years ago to be stricter on credit card companies were not strict enough. Clearly, most people cannot pay off $100k or more on credit cards. Why are the limits so high? Credit card debt counsling agencies should get more grants as well - to be able to counsel individuals to live within their means.

Sadly, social workers have been and will be largely affected by this financial crisis. Our salaries frequently put us in the same category as some of the clients we serve. I’m glad to see NASW taking steps to improve social work’s image and salaries.

Heather
Melissa Says:
October 11th, 2008 at 12:10 am
First of all, social workers have to advocate and endorese people for high office that embody the profession. This is exactly what NASW is doing when it endorses Barack Obama and others.

As an Obama supporter, we need fresh blood in American politics. Someone that stands for our profession. I’m afraid, folks, that if we don’t get this, we will never realize what our profession can become.

Sadly, social workers are effected by this ecomony. I’m an LSW, just graduated in Aug. and still looking for work w/in social work. I am extremely frustrated and upset. The change will come from getting someone new and hasn’t been in politics very long.

That being said, I believe the economy is pitting social workers against one another - clinical against case workers and the such. We are fighting to stay alive in a profession when that is the last thing we should be worried about. We should be worried about helping others along with earning a respectable wage/living. It can sometimes be a tough call, but it is tearing us apart…I get a sense from this blog. Tearing social workers apart does not promote unity…which we deperately need right now.
An MSW student Says:
October 11th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Wow. I have to say that is the first blog I’ve read every post! I am halfway through my MSW program and am wondering why anyone would want to get there MSW now….especially when those in the field can not agree to disagree. Educate, yes. Bash, NO. And democratic socialism….socialism? I’m just not comfortable with those two words together. Look at how far away we’ve gotten with our democratic /capitalist government.

I agree with Merrell entry 28. I believe in a savior and it is not the president of the United States or any other leader in the world. I also do not look at the economy the same way many of Americans are doing right now…why because what neither candidate is admitting is that we are in a humble place. America, I believe, is losing it’s “SUPERPOWER” and the economy is going to pot. No, I don’t have a bomb shelter in my basement, but I am doing my part to promote the local economy by buying locally and being conservative with my money but not soo much that I don’t give to those who need it. Really, friends, it is about doing our individual part and throwing the pebble out there for others to see the positive affect and hopefully throw their pebble out too. Honestly, I am up in the air as for who to vote for…and really think daily about how unjust our electoral system is anywho….the electoral college started when communication was bad, so that the folks in the capital knew what the people wanted. Does anyone think communication is bad? I mean technologically, speaking? How come no one talks about changing this?? We all know and love people who say they won’t vote because it doesn’t do any good. I see why the feel that way. I partly do, but yet I still vote.

I believe in social work and agree with my professor who said “Jesus was a social worker.”
Jan Samson Says:
October 11th, 2008 at 8:57 am
NASW has no business promoting political candidates, nor should Social Work professors in our academic institutions. Social Workers should feel free to think and vote for themselves without concerns of judgement or criticizm from their professional organizations, employers, professors, or anyone else of influence in the field. We are taught not to judge others in our education and in practice. Is it not hypocriitical to do this toward Social Workers who believe in political ideaology other than liberalism? Unfortunately this political agenda IS the theme throughout the field and academic institutions have had to deal with costly legal fees in extreme cases of bias (see NAS studies).

I voted early for John McCain and I often vote republican because our country’s economy thrives on capitolistic principles of freedom, independence, hard work, healthy competition. This works for all people, including the most needy, particularly when we invest in social programs that EFFECTIVELY assist people while providing incentives for them to help themselves. Senator Obama’s economic plan in combination with all of his promices will not create jobs and opportunity for people to thrive; it will make people more dependent on government while undermining our country’s foundation encouraging all Americans to do what we do best; that is, work hard, help others, and be free to follow our dreams. Adding higher tax burdens to those who create jobs will not create more jobs…and if you believe the “middle class” will not be taxed higher…well look at history and just wait and see. A Fair Tax or a Flat Tax would generate more income, provide choice, promote opportunity and most importantly stop the speical interst groups and corporations from influencing our lawmakers in Wash. The people need to take responsiblility to learn of these type on innovative ideas that would REALLY bring change to the system; these ideas will not come from our politicians in either party for this very reason. I respect people who’s political view’s differ from mine and I am tired of my views and perspective on social justice issues being judged by others, particularly in the Social Work field since I became a MSW student.

Thankyou NASW for the opportunity to voice my perspective, please consider taking the higher ground and becoming more apolitical. We Social Workers CAN think for ourselves.
Darlene Says:
October 11th, 2008 at 8:59 am
I’m a student in the social work field, and am a citizen living in a country who is in a crisis i have never seen before, only read about in history class. No doubt, which ever candidat is elected President, we all will have to suffer in some way for a time for the good of our country in the long run, but i believe i learned in one of my social work classes, that the best time for change is during a “crisis”. We are in a crisis, and i don’t see where more of the same behavior, i.e. “last eight years”, being productive at all, as miserable as our state of being is right now, it’s a great opportunity for productive “change”. The last eight years of politics hasn’t been working to well, for us, i say it’s time for a change.
Maureen Says:
October 11th, 2008 at 9:30 am
As a social work student, I do feel that government’s (all governments) basis is to hear themselves, feed themselves and maintain their friendship with Big Businesses. Big Businesses bottom line is to make profit: credit cards, mortgages, advertising, etc. Where, in all this, does the “average person” fit I’ve yet to hear comments on from either of them. We “average” people, rich to poor, seem to be silenced yet are categorized on our own levels of wealth & awarded as such: tax breaks, two-tiered health, etc. Then, at the bottom, comes the social workers, the social system. In North America, people are autonomous & taught it’s our own fault for being sick, downtrodden, poor; that we should ‘pull up our socks’ or ’snap out of it’ & are treated accordingly … Little in the way of help. Yes? So, with that said, the government-to-be needs to verbally commit, honour accountability & say, yes, they know this is the case, and begin to repair damages from the ground up. Poor families start with nothing … and so where to go for them? We need to get value for these people, worth & nurture them so they can re-learn and nurture themselves. If they need financial cuts to make ends meet, let it be, as long as they are interested in helping themselves if we help them. We cannot ’save’ everyone but PLEASE do NOT punish the ones who try to get ahead but are locked into their current situation with no opportunities out of it. If they want to break away from having little in life, let it happen & let government help … Don’t expect non-profit to bail all governnment’s responsibilities (food banks??? shame on the governments for ever letting this happen).
In my social work studies, please refer to Class Conflict Theory. It discusses 3 levels or class of people: Upper, middle, lower. The lower is kept in that spot to serve those above. I believe this is the class we are or need to be helping … Give them the chance to get out of it, if they are willing to work … But they need the backing of governments, to value them & support all aspects while they do. And if there are those who choose not to, governments need to address each on a case-by-case basis & ask them what they need.
However, until governments and Big Business will admit this tiered system & not run from it, but, instead, agree it’s there … As social workers, as a strong union of professionals, we need to address their willingness to admit the problems, list them and provide a mandate to give us the help we need to help them.
On the day this happens, I will know which political representative is truly worthy of the title President of the United States. To date, it has nothing to do with their ‘bells and whistles’ as they argue amongst themselves.
Thank you.
Marianne G Says:
October 11th, 2008 at 10:48 am
The next president will inherit policies that have been percolating in America since its founding. The underlying ideology is individualist and, since Reagan, skewed toward hyper-capitalism. (This includes the Clinton presidency.)
Jesus said “Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s”. You can’t escape your civic responsibility to be an informed voter who votes according to real facts and an informed concscience. Stop listening to the pundits, and to your spiritual leaders, who all have an agenda. Read the transcripts of the speeches, listen and watch the affect of the candidates, review their voting records and what THEY have to say about those decisions and voting records and make your best INFORMED decision. Many of you are echoing some of the same garbage that I hear fro the various interest groups-same phrases too. You don’t vote by race, age ,gender, religion, sexual orientation, looks, etc. This is not American Idol !!!
I was a Hilary supporter. She was a bit too conservative in her economic policies for me but I knew that she was experienced smart and competent and I agreed with her in many areas. I was undecided until the vice presidential candidates were chosen. Cheney changed that position forever. There is no perfection here but you do have a mandate to be informed by your own investigation.
Marianne G Says:
October 11th, 2008 at 11:52 am
I thought that it would be important to share the statement that NOW put out regarding Sarah Palin. I think that it is a thoughtful and honest statment and is without malice. It is as follows:
“Friends,
We are writing to you because of the fury and dread we have felt since the
announcement of Sarah Palin as the Vice-Presidential candidate for the
Republican Party. We believe that this terrible decision has surpassed mere
partisanship, and that it is a dangerous farce on the part of a pandering and
rudderless Presidential candidate that has a real possibility of becoming fact.
Perhaps like us, as American women, you share the fear of what Ms. Palin and her professed beliefs and proven record could lead to for ourselves and for our present or future daughters. To date, she is against sex education, birth control, the pro-choice platform, environmental protection, alternative energy development, freedom of speech, gun control, the separation of church and state, and polar bears. To say nothing of her complete lack of real preparation to become the second-(and possibly first)-most-powerful person on the planet.
We want to clarify that we are not against Sarah Palin as a woman, a mother,
or, for that matter, a parent of a pregnant teenager, but solely as a rash,
incompetent, and altogether devastating choice for Vice President. Ms. Palin’s political views are in every way a slap in the face to the accomplishments that our mothers and grandmothers and great- grandmothers so fiercely fought for,and from which we’ve so demonstrably benefited.
First and foremost, Ms. Palin does not represent us. She does not demonstrate or uphold our interests as American women. It is presumed that the inclusion of a woman on the Republican ticket could win over women voters. We want to disagree, publicly.”

There is plenty here to chec out if you wonder whether they go her positions on certain areas correct.
Aoife Says:
October 11th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Socialism for the banks and failed markets for the people? Its amazing to see so many posts by social workers who want to hold citizens accountable for the actions of a government which has favored big business for too long. At least this crisis will create a common experience which might move American society to choose to work in a more egalitarian way. Get real about whether you actually want to be a social worker. If you believe in individualism, bootstraps, and tax breaks for the rich consider why you are choosing a profession with a mission so at adds with your beliefs. VOTE OBAMA !
Diane Says:
October 11th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
I am interested in the issues and wonder if anyone has comment to the parity finacing, the need for health care reform and what we have learned from other nations on how it can work or not work. I believe we will not address any of these issues if we donot have a good energy policy. I find both parities remiss on the later too. I learned from my husband that we have technology to convert our car engines now - part hydogen cell for less then 20 dollars and save 30% of our car gasolinge consumption. this technoology is on the internet for al to see and use but yet no one in congress has addressed it. He built on himself and it works. the koreans and china have used this technology to built home units etc. and we can not order these generators in the US .Why? I hope we will stop just taking a party and use common sense as there are issues that are not being addressed. Comments?
Mrs. Ruby Pratt Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 1:37 am
Wow! I am surprised at some of the dialogue, as a student trying to get a BSW and preparing for midterm exams some of these comments would give me a failing grade. They teach us to know ourselves and not to let our own values be an obstacle to others.

Personally, I believe that the businesses, which leave the United States to pay cheap labor for increase profits should be accessed a tax to bring their goods back into the country. The businesses whose management misused funds like AIG should be fired and prosecuted. Moreover, I believe that we complain too much about welfare recipients but say nothing about corporate welfare, oil companies, and other big businesses getting government funding while making huge profits. In addition, why are we still giving money to the Iraqi government when they now have a surplus? Many Americans cannot afford health or childcare, gas prices, veterans disabled and displaced amongst other things. This I do not understand. Nevertheless, let’s get back to social workers.

We should look at the NASW code of ethics, which we agree to up hold before anything but the law in our state. Three points of the preamble are 1. The primary mission of the social work profession is to enhance human well-being and help meet the basic human needs of all people, with particular attention to the needs and empowerment of people who are vulnerable, oppressed, and living in poverty. 2. The fundamental to social work is attention to the environmental forces that create, contribute to, and address problems in living. 3. Social workers are sensitive to cultural and ethnic diversity and strive to end discrimination, oppression, poverty, and other forms of social injustice.

Under ethical standards, Social Workers’ Ethical Responsibilities to the Social Work Profession, 5.01 Integrity of the Profession part (b) Social workers should uphold and advance the values, ethics, knowledge, and mission of the profession…I believe we can start here in seeking an answer. Social Workers’ Ethical Responsibilities to the broader Society, 6.04 Social and Political Action part (a) Social workers should engage in social and political action that seeks to ensure that all people have equal access to the resources, employment, services, and opportunities they require to meet their basic human needs and to develop fully. Social workers should be aware of the impact of the political arena on practice and should advocate for changes in policy and legislation to improve social conditions in order to meet basic human needs and promote social justice. I believe this gives the NASW and all social workers a mandate to stand on the side of social justice no matter who is the person or the political party.

Senator Obama and Senator McCain are both men who have limits to what they are able to do. However, I believe we need to look at the heart-of-the-matter. Am I resentful? Do I have a heart of kindness and compassion? Am I stereotyping and being judgmental? Can I truly be empathetic towards others? What are my biases? Am I burnt out? Is this profession a fit for me? These are questions I believe that we are to continually ask ourselves to monitor our standards. Nevertheless, no man can change the spirit of prejudice, greed and selfishness that seems to permeate the American psyche. He would be like a band-aid trying to cover a surgical wound. However, if you believe in prayer now is a good time. I believe we need God’s intervention on this one.
Jessica Grimes Says:
October 12th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Aoife (post 38), I am amazed that you and others on here seem to think that social workers that are not democrats need to “rethink” their chosen profession. Goodness! It makes me so sad to read post like yours. It shows me just how uninformed and jaded some can be.

To me, it smells of arrogance. Your way of thinking is what is tearing this country apart. Anyone who thinks that any political party has it all right should be getting ready for an awakening.

It takes partnerships with repubs, dems, and independents to make this country run well.

I think our profession would totally falter if all of us subscribed to any one party. Social workers are champions of differences, change, new ideas, advocacy and linking groups/people/communities together. I do not think we could do our jobs well if we were not a diversified profession, willing and excited to be working together to help effect change in the lives of our clients.

Learn about each of your candidates, wrestle with their ideas/values and run them through your values and then decide which candidate best represents you. Be educated. Be informed. BUT dont let someone like Aoife (post 38) make you feel guilty for who you support. Let us not put our profession in a box. Even though NASW would like to have you and the public believe that we all are carbon copies of each other.
Beth Koon Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 7:55 am
I am tickled pink to see the diverse dialog going on here. As with many blogs, the issue began with the current economic crisis and has spread to more general issues.

As a long-time NASW member, Past President of the Florida Chapter, Florida Chapter Ethics Committee member and Ethics presenter for NASW Florida Chapter , 2-time Delegate, (whew!) and a Republican, it’s validating to participate in a format in which we ALL feel comfortable expressing our views. Additionally, please consider running for office in NASW. Start in your local Unit or Branch, run for Chapter Office, run for the next Delegate Assembly–or just start talking in your local meetings.

NASW needs ALL our voices! We’re clearly a diverse group of helping professionals!
Aoife Says:
October 13th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
I agree with 41. We need to learn about the candidates, and assess their views and vales. We need to ask our selves which candidate will better serve the interests of the populations we work with. We need to review our code of ethics, and decide which candidate’s views most support social work’s mission - ‘the empowerment of people who are vulnerable, oppressed, and living in poverty’ (NASW Code of Ethics).
Advocating for equality and social justice will not tear this country apart. It is eight years of tax breaks for the rich, deregulation, war, failure to invest in social and physical infrastructure, and devisive double standards which have torn this counrty apart. Equality and social justice are the key to American unity and fraternity.
And, lets keep this discussion professional, ie discussing the issues as they are relevant to our profession, and avoid targeting the comments of individuals for derision.
Jane Says:
October 14th, 2008 at 11:25 am
I, too, am shocked at the number of social workers for McCain/Palin and the fact that they are angry with NASW for supporting a candidate. NASW has supported candidates in every election. This is nothing new. I could list for hours the number of reasons that the McCain ticket does not support the same value system as my own, but the most outstanding issue to me is that McCain was once at lease a patriotic civil servant. I certainly wish that he had been the Republican nominee in 2000. However, he has changed and clearly has sold out in trying to win by picking an inexperienced, ill-prepared, under educated individual as his running mate. This is the kindest thing I can say about this selection. He is wrecklessly decisive by making whatever grandious move of the moment that he thinks will put him ahead in the polls and the implications that has for his leadership style is very frightening. He still sees this country as one that must “win” wars at all cost, even if they were unjust from the beginning. He will be the oldest president ever elected if he does succeed, and he has had significant health problems. The likelyhood that he could not finish out his term has to be greater than it has been for any modern day president. The thought that Ms Palin could step into the role scares me more than I can ever say. It appears that we want the brightest and best to fill every key postion in the country until it comes to the president . Unbelievable that as a nation we can be so unenlightened. The angry, bigoted rhetoric that they are encouraging in the last few days is also shameful.
Lynn Says:
October 14th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
I believe I have to decide who is responsible for my health care, my children, my finances, getting a job; the government or me? I am a Social Worker who assists people, empowers them and hopefully adds hope to their life. I am not concerned for myself about the state of the nation because my God will always provide for me amd mine however, not all people believe in God so I must look to what I believe will be the best person to run a nation hell bent on destrying itself.
Charlotte G Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
The personal is political and, in social work, the professional is political. As stated above we each are committed to uphold the core values of our profession. If you see no structural reason for poverty in our nation, if you knowingly discriminate between the “worthy” and the “unworthy” poor, if you don’t believe that community organizing provides valuable knowledge and experience, then perhaps you should not be a social worker. Another profession without that pesky commitment to social justice may be more aligned with your personal values. Another option: go back to school for a refresher on social policy.
kay Says:
October 15th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
I do uphold the values of my profession as a social worker, and I am supporting John McCain for his economic policies and the fact that he will be the best president. Because one differs with Charlotte and others, they should not be told to get out of the social work profession. We should be a diverse profession, tolerant of viewpoints of our colleagues.
Andy Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
The current economic crisis is a result of poor monetary policy decisions by the Federal Reserve in the early part of this decade, and exuberant borrowing by BOTH Wall Street and Main Street.

Essentially, the Fed lowered interests rates to a point at which borrowing was a great deal for banks. In turn, banks extended this upside to consumers by offering extremely low mortgage rates and loose lending policies. So-called subprime borrowers were able to obtain mortgages without income documentation and there was no worry over whether these borrowers could pay back the loans. Such lending policies caused increased demand in the housing market and real estate prices skyrocketed.

Then, subprime borrowers began to default and the bubble began to burst - housing prices fell and people owed more than their homes were worth. The effects of this were felt on Main Street, Wall Street and beyond (even in Iceland!).

Here’s the main idea: you can’t lend money to people who can’t pay back, and those who can’t pay should not borrow money.

As a social worker and MBA student, I see both sides of this economic mess. Yes, there were excesses on Wall St and even greed at times. However, consumers were greedy also. Who buys a house at $800,000 when they only have an income of $50,000 per year? Just because debt is available to you does not mean you should leverage-up beyond your means.

I think the current economic crisis affects the social work field in the following way. Some of our clients may be subprime borrowers. Some may have lost or will lose their homes. Some have lost or will lose jobs because of credit tightening and businesses closing down - these are the people that need our help.

We are completely wasting our time by playing partisan politics and ignoring the core economic issues at hand. Blaming Wall St is only half the story. Those who borrowed irresponsibly will need help in paying back their debts. This does not mean we should give hand-outs. We should instead empower people to take responsibility for their actions. We need to look at job training and placement, debt counseling, coping skills, etc.

One thing is very clear: neither John McCain nor Barack Obama are paying enough attention to empowering people to help themselves. To me, this is the essence of social work. Bailouts, mortgage forgiveness, moratoria on foreclosures, etc. - these efforts do not address the core problems. People on Wall St and Main St need to realize that actions carry consequences. Nothing in this world is completely free.
Beth Koon Says:
October 16th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
For all of you who say we who differ with your political views to leave the Social Work profession, I offer you two observations:
1. For many years, NASW’s national membership numbers have remained stagnant.
2. Our profession is aging, with fewer students seeking Social Work degrees.

We’re alienating a clearly significant population of Social Workers whose opinions differ from the traditional liberal NASW party line.

In order to grow the Profession and recruit/retain members, NASW must open its doors to differing viewpoints and new strategies for building effective, efficient social programs. This means welcoming Republicans, Libertarians, Green Party members, Socialist party members, Communist party members, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Wiccans and athiests. “Diversity” and “tolerance” –are they real to Social Workers or just politically-correct lip service?

“The definition of insanity is doing things the same way and expecting different results.”
Donyale Says:
October 18th, 2008 at 2:52 am
I am a current MSW student and currently working in the social work field. I am in this field to help individuals and families. The economic crisis has begun to take its toll on Main Street not only in lower class neighborhoods, but middle class neighborhoods as well. Families are having difficulties with paying bills, getting to and from work, and buying food. Gas and food prices are up and incomes are stagnant. Food and shelter are basic needs. Families are struggling with basic needs. This is just the beginning…social workers, we have a lot of work to do in all communities and congress.
Marianne Says:
October 18th, 2008 at 11:11 am
I am previously posted #’s 37 & 38. I am disturbed at the lack of tolerance for people’s personal views. There are many reasons why or why no someone may or may not support a particular candidate and/or party. We can vigorously disagree or agree but I do not believe we have the right to disparage and personally attack someones stance on this decision. Heated intelligent discussions are wonderful but I agree with several others that have made a case for a diversity of opinions. That is what this great but not always perfect country is about. I challenge you all to speak with immigrants about their lives and why they came here. Believe me, I have many as clients and I know that the hazing that often accompanies immigrants is unfair and can be deadly but , there is a freedom that many other countries do not possess. One of my colleagues who recently became a citizen spoke about his work over the years in positions all over the world. There was no other country where he was welcomed and respected as much in spite of and perhaps because of his difference by his co-workers as in America. That is why he and his wife chose to make this their country of citizenship.
Economically, we will be in a mess for a long time because of decisions made by both Democrats and Republicans and, at many junctures, by by the citizens of this country who benefited from these policies or failed to speak out against them. We all will suffer losses and life style changes. Let’s focus, however on the oppressed populations that we serve. Their lives will be harder because the trickle of a failed trickle-down economy will be dry. What can we do as a nation, as a profession and as individuals to assist them better?
J English Says:
October 24th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Late to this discussion, I read every single preceding comment. I cringe when I see things that imply that social workers should be of a socialist inclination or find another field. I don’t know what to make of the hue and cry that NASW should not endorse political candidates. As I recall, our professional association has a thorough vetting process and while I’ve vehemently disagreed with some endorsements, by and large their endorsements do seem to be aligned with the values of the profession. I think that we would be in sorry shape indeed if we were absolutely affiliated with one party or another. Contrary to some media portrayals, not all social workers are bleeding heart liberals trying to be the thought police. I think this forum demonstrates that. It also demonstrates something else. We ALL want our families and our clients to have access to health care, to live in safe communities, to have a quality education so that they can earn a living wage. That unites us. We differ only in how to accomplish these things. I think that’s also true of the candidates. They both want what’s good for the country, just have different ideas of how to get there.

Back to the original question “What do social workers think about the current economic crisis?” Well, never thought it would have much of an impact on me. I’m a social worker after all, so it’s not like I have a whole lot invested elsewhere. I use my paycheck for the stuff of daily life. But last Monday, my husband lost his job. And in classic vignette, we sit at the table and try to figure out where to make adjustments so that we can survive on suddenly half the household income. We go through the stack of last month’s bills and statements to come up with a tighter budget. And there, in that stack, is my NASW renewal clearly marked “final notice.”

It’s not a time when we can afford extras. And in traditional yankee form, I know how to be frugal. But I have that ACSW. The designation that tells everyone I encounter in my work life that I’ve got more than a degree, more than a license. I’ve got years of continuing education, professional practice experience, and meet the demands both of leadership and expertise. And I’ve watched NASW move in my state to ensure that social workers are at the table when social policy issues are in play. And I remember that NASW is putting efforts into the Social Work Reinvestment just like the nurses and teachers before. These things have direct impact on me personally and professionally. I couldn’t come up with all of the contributions and categories on the renewal checklist. But I wrote the check. Because it’s not an expense - it’s an investment in who I am and what I do.
Kendra Says:
October 25th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
I am a student working towards my BSW so I may not know everything, but I understand this struggle people have when it comes to politics. I was raised in a Republican and until recently was a self proclaimed Libertarian. Now my political views are fuzzy and I think that’s ok because with politics, things are never black and white. What I’ve come to realize is that the Democratic party is going to be the political party that backs social services and policies and funding.

Taking all that in, we have to realize that as social workers, one of our main goals (like it says in the NASW Code of Ethics) is to protect our clients and advocate for our clients. At this point in my life, who gets president is not going to greatly affect me, but it will affect the people that you and I serve. We have to be unselfish in our voting and think about the country as a whole and not just about ourselves. We have to get past this idea of individualism and take care of people. As social workers, that should be our main concern…taking care of people who need help. And we aren’t going to get anything accomplished if we can’t even learn to support one another despite our differences.

One last note, discrimination isn’t just a racial or sexist thing. Being rude to one another based on political views is just the same.
JohnM Says:
October 30th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
I thought I was the only one who is voting for McCain! Thank God!

Social Work has historically been a liberal profession, but it’s people like Obama who won’t acknowledge that “greedy” capitalists who pay 75% of the taxes in this country are the ones who make our profession POSSIBLE! Without “greedy” businesses earning “excessive” profits, there wouldn’t BE any funding b/c there wouldn’t be any tax money in the coffers. Obama’s economic plan and his promise to raise corporate taxes is a DISASTER! The United States already has the second highest corporate tax rate in the world (Japan has the highest).

To SPINSTER–yes, I hope your colleagues are right–I hope you ARE a dying breed. It’s the liberal culture of the Baby Boomer generation that got us into this mess. Leave it to us, the next generation. We’ll take care of the $10 trillion deficit and the other messes that your generation has created.

McCain ‘08!!!!

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